Hard hitters in the punting stakes

I remember one particular day at Pmb watching Ronnie Hammer in action.

!st race of the day he pulled R40,000 cash out of the hidden pockets in his specially tailored famous BLUE suit............his horse got beat so he had to go and top up from the boot of his car............... the next bet won................he then paroled onto the third (all Cunningham horses in his colours) when that one won he went to collect and bookmakers wanted to give him cheques ..................his retort "you don't take my cheques ,I don't take yours"......lol

They had to borrow cash from the tote to settle!

Louis , does having gamblers in the yard (owners )put you under severe?

Rob,

I agree but when the analyst thinks he has found the angle then he steams in , she drifted.

I am just highlighting the lack imo of betting moves in handicaps in sa. Is it because of bookmaker fear, handicap incorrectness, horse inconsistency?

rob faux Wrote:

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> I remember one particular day at Pmb watching
> Ronnie Hammer in action.
>
> !st race of the day he pulled R40,000 cash out of
> the hidden pockets in his specially tailored
> famous BLUE suit............his horse got beat so
> he had to go and top up from the boot of his
> car............... the next bet
> won................he then paroled onto the third
> (all Cunningham horses in his colours) when that
> one won he went to collect and bookmakers wanted
> to give him cheques ..................his retort
> "you don't take my cheques ,I don't take
> yours"......lol
>
> They had to borrow cash from the tote to settle!


That blue suit was notorious ....

Titch Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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> > I remember one particular day at Pmb watching
> > Ronnie Hammer in action.
> >
> > !st race of the day he pulled R40,000 cash out
> of
> > the hidden pockets in his specially tailored
> > famous BLUE suit............his horse got beat
> so
> > he had to go and top up from the boot of his
> > car............... the next bet
> > won................he then paroled onto the
> third
> > (all Cunningham horses in his colours) when
> that
> > one won he went to collect and bookmakers
> wanted
> > to give him cheques ..................his
> retort
> > "you don't take my cheques ,I don't take
> > yours"......lol
> >
> > They had to borrow cash from the tote to
> settle!
>
>
> That blue suit was notorious ....

Absolutely...................R40,000 took a lot of space in those days....4000 notes as I don't think even R20 notes were in circulation yet ?.....-

Just my point of view is that a big gambler is a person whose gambling ratio is high to what he earns. So if you gambling 100% of your income after paying you accounts, you are a big player cos thats the most you can spend, be it you earning R10 000 or R50 000

louisg Wrote:

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> R20k on a horse was normal in the early 70's -
> someone clever do the maths - how much would that
> be today?


By my reckoning about 600K!!!!!

Would love to know how much Ronnie Hammer won 1983 S A derby Kwiktan ..

Len Sham Wrote:

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> Would love to know how much Ronnie Hammer won
> 1983 S A derby Kwiktan ..


LOL..do you remember how long it took to pull the horse up after the post LMAO...Michael Cave i think rode it.. Moccasin and Gerald Levy for Brian Cunningham was another "coup"

Titch Wrote:

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> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > Would love to know how much Ronnie Hammer won
> > 1983 S A derby Kwiktan ..
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> LOL..do you remember how long it took to pull the
> horse up after the post LMAO...Michael Cave i
> think rode it.. Moccasin and Gerald Levy for Brian
> Cunningham was another "coup"
Ran 4 th next run then broke down.. Yip M Cave rode it..

many people i now laugh when i say i punt big thirty plus year ago. today you no got the chance with the accountants. i give you the example of what punting is like when you have book maker and not little gray men who now nothing about making the book. in early 80's i think 82 or 83 the good friend of me, costa economides is having a horse that is run at newmarket. he is the first timer and he is with syd laird. costa horse is no fancied but in the ring syd say to hem back the stable companion that bartie is on it wont lose. i almost knock people over when i am run from the ring to the bookies is next to each other. The horse is 5/2 and I go to Les Kourie who I have the account with. I ask for 50000/20000. He say do you want it again Mike? I do so I have 100000/40000. The horse start 14/10 and win by six lengths, I remember hem like it is yesterday. the horse is call statue of liberty he win many races. today you have no chance of put that bet

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> many people i now laugh when i say i punt big
> thirty plus year ago. today you no got the chance
> with the accountants. i give you the example of
> what punting is like when you have book maker and
> not little gray men who now nothing about making
> the book. in early 80's i think 82 or 83 the good
> friend of me, costa economides is having a horse
> that is run at newmarket. he is the first timer
> and he is with syd laird. costa horse is no
> fancied but in the ring syd say to hem back the
> stable companion that bartie is on it wont lose. i
> almost knock people over when i am run from the
> ring to the bookies is next to each other. The
> horse is 5/2 and I go to Les Kourie who I have the
> account with. I ask for 50000/20000. He say do you
> want it again Mike? I do so I have 100000/40000.
> The horse start 14/10 and win by six lengths, I
> remember hem like it is yesterday. the horse is
> call statue of liberty he win many races. today
> you have no chance of put that bet


Flash is it the same Costa who had the Wimpy in Alberton..