Hard hitters in the punting stakes

My mate now struggles to get R10k on sumthyms...
Winkwink Seshen69.......

Len Sham Wrote:

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> The most interesting factor imo about all these
> hard hitters was not the studying of form, but
> inside info on horses well being , jockey and or
> trainer input. and then fire.(tu)


len we remember the one that arrive, plenty plenty more do no

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > The most interesting factor imo about all these
> > hard hitters was not the studying of form,
> but
> > inside info on horses well being , jockey and
> or
> > trainer input. and then fire.(tu)
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> len we remember the one that arrive, plenty plenty
> more do no


And the bookies laid them because when they never had the info they still gambled like fuck and done their brains

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> > The most interesting factor imo about all these
> > hard hitters was not the studying of form,
> but
> > inside info on horses well being , jockey and
> or
> > trainer input. and then fire.(tu)
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> len we remember the one that arrive, plenty plenty
> more do no


You correct Flash but we only like to remember the good times ,thats why we still in the game ,racing school fees paid then enjoyment at any win.

I can only talk from what I read from Molly's article on Jean Heming. Skjoldhammer sent his Denim Dandy to run in the Met in 1984? His instruction to Jean Heming was to set a scorching pace for Arctic Cove, the eventual winner, trained by Terance Millard. When Jean said to Skjoldhammer that Millard always has pacemakers in big races he responded "I do not trust Mr Millard". For those who remember Denim Dandy set a suicide pace and S'hammer had 10's of thousands on Arctic Cove

Titch Wrote:

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> > ......also "Mickey" Livanos collected a Million
> > Rand from bookies after his horse Court Day won
> > the Durban July back in 1970......:
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> Related to Costa Livanos ??

Not sure.....he was a well groomed and very dapper dresser and drank "pink" gin.....:S

The mention of Tilly Wilmans..... That was a funny story-railway worker and real "outie"(knew his sister well).... fluked a big j'pot and then even luckier buying some really good horses via David Payne( Bold Warrior , Little Mo , etc)
Was a force,punting for about a year,and then went out - back to outie!
Loved the limelight while it lasted!

rob faux Wrote:

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> The mention of Tilly Wilmans..... That was a funny
> story-railway worker and real "outie"(knew his
> sister well).... fluked a big j'pot and then even
> luckier buying some really good horses via David
> Payne( Bold Warrior , Little Mo , etc)
> Was a force,punting for about a year,and then went
> out - back to outie!
> Loved the limelight while it lasted!


Rob...............remember his suits?........and fast back hairstyle?.............Also used to back a few horses in each race!!!....as Flash would say...........quick way to bankrupt.......

Countrymember Wrote:

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> > The mention of Tilly Wilmans..... That was a
> funny
> > story-railway worker and real "outie"(knew his
> > sister well).... fluked a big j'pot and then
> even
> > luckier buying some really good horses via
> David
> > Payne( Bold Warrior , Little Mo , etc)
> > Was a force,punting for about a year,and then
> went
> > out - back to outie!
> > Loved the limelight while it lasted!
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> Rob...............remember his suits?........and
> fast back hairstyle?.............Also used to
> back a few horses in each race!!!....as Flash
> would say...........quick way to bankrupt.......

Oh yes CM ..... Mostly short Safari suits -used to whip his comb out his sock and give the quiff a flick just before a strike!...lol

rob faux Wrote:

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> > > I remember one particular day at Pmb watching
> > > Ronnie Hammer in action.
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> > > !st race of the day he pulled R40,000 cash
> out
> > of
> > > the hidden pockets in his specially tailored
> > > famous BLUE suit............his horse got
> beat
> > so
> > > he had to go and top up from the boot of his
> > > car............... the next bet
> > > won................he then paroled onto the
> > third
> > > (all Cunningham horses in his colours) when
> > that
> > > one won he went to collect and bookmakers
> > wanted
> > > to give him cheques ..................his
> > retort
> > > "you don't take my cheques ,I don't take
> > > yours"......lol
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> > > They had to borrow cash from the tote to
> > settle!
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> > That blue suit was notorious ....
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> Absolutely...................R40,000 took a lot of
> space in those days....4000 notes as I don't think
> even R20 notes were in circulation yet ?.....-

Wow - some lovely stories / memories of the good old days...pity its way before my mine

Seems like racing was a lot more fun and profitable back in the day (tu)

Us youngsters love to read about these success stories - keep them coming(

Remember the COUP on Rain Forest in the Cape Guineas ........Jean knew how to line em up........

the duke Wrote:

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> Remember the COUP on Rain Forest in the Cape
> Guineas ........Jean knew how to line em
> up........

The Harmse brothers had some very nice horses with Mrs Heming(tu)