Hard hitters in the punting stakes

triple tempo Wrote:

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> What ever happened to Kid Colt (Etttiene). I
> remember him walking in Natal Tattersals and
> claiming Dancing Duel after it won the Daily News.
> he was quite a character on course.

He was from my time racing in Natal , Tony "abie" Abrahams, Ettienne "kid vd Westhuizen, Charlie Goode, Phillip Goldkorn, Tony Dumas(did commissions for Passmores) Chris Evans and a few more names that flash back now and again..........
We all raced every meeting and the regulars were all similar to a "clan" in those days........some great guys and great stories.
Kid got into the insurance industry and did very well and if his interview on Winning Ways can be believed,he is no longer a punting addict.............if you knew him well in those days you would find it hard to believe!..........he could fire with the best of them!

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> Muhtiman Wrote:
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> > ......funny thing, Charl Pretorius interviewed
> Mrs
> > Hemming in the UK when he had Freeracer
> > website.....she confessed and named the
> substance
> > she used in conjunction with a local vet.....I
> > have since forgotten its name....but at the
> time
> > researched the hell out of it......there is no
> way
> > it could have improved or enhanced any horses
> to
> > make them run better.....it was actually
> something
> > that could have been more detrimental to health
> > and performance.....:S
>
> Sir with respect that is the not the truth
>
> on page 50 Jean said quote from the book LEGENDS
> OF THE TURF and giving Charl the credit
> "I can sate categorically that no horse in my
> stable was ever "doped" to win a race,or 'nobbled'
> as they say.The only pre-race preparation
> administered in my training programmer was the
> process of 'drenching' to hydrate horses that were
> dehydrated.
> Post race treatments very important. I used
> Bykahepar, Ringers Lactate or Synthemin drops to
> help my runners to recover after their races and
> to reduce their lactic acid levels.
> To avoid a horse suffering dry sweat it is
> necessary to keep it hydrated. It is against my
> principles and common sense to use diurectics to
> dehydrate them before racing "
>
> nowhere in the whole article from page 41 to 56
> she admits to anything as suggested by you.

Yes now you name it is the very same-

Description Bykahepar ® is a compound based on this latter agent that acts as choleretic and digestive increasing secretory activity of exocrine digestive glands, biliary secretion increase and increase pancreatic activity, pepsin, trypsin, chymotrypsin and amylase. It also acts as a hepatoprotective protecting the liver during digestive disorders. It also acts as a cardiotonic, increasing the strength of protection and the number of beats per minute, increasing cardiac output and coronary flow. Composition Each ml of product contains 106.4 mg of sodium latter agent. Formulation Solution for injection. Indications It can be used successfully in all primary and secondary diseases that require activation of all processes related to digestion secretion. Supercharger, bloat, ketosis, constipation, food poisoning, decreased appetite, gaseous colic, intestinal atony, etc.. It is used alone or in combination with other oral remedies.

If that is what is going to improve a horse's health after every race then some one else be the judge.....:

pic from Countrymember

BIGNIC Wrote:

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> Sorry Bosman street tatts building belonged to
> Manie Heyneke I think


there were some very heavy hitters in Pretoria Nick...That bosman street tatts has a few stories to tell...Nick Avakoum,Jerry Lewis, the Eerenstein brothers, Costa Tamous...those where real bookies..(tu)

What? Countrymember? Do you still have all the editions of "Kid Colt"??

Brilliant reading guys, please post some more. Plus who were generally respected as the biggest bookies of their time ? Old man Koury I suppose, Harry Symons ? Bill Ferguson ?

I worked as a runner for Bill Ferguson for a while before moving back to the Tatts at Loveday Street. When he decided to do take backs, I was ordered to take from every bookie in the gold ring. Not an easy thing to do, because the ring was always packed and punters would stampede and all try and and get the price on the hottie. which would shorten very quickly.

Nobody has mentioned another big punter.....marlon


One year on the 31st december at greyville in the last race of the night and the last race of the year Marlon had a horse running

Sydney something or other. I cant remember the name..

I think the money poured on from 9/2 to evens and won on its coconut making the night that much sweeter....

Was hansie involved in marlons coups:D

easy Wrote:

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> Nobody has mentioned another big
> punter.....marlon
>
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> One year on the 31st december at greyville in the
> last race of the night and the last race of the
> year Marlon had a horse running
>
> Sydney something or other. I cant remember the
> name..
>
> I think the money poured on from 9/2 to evens and
> won on its coconut making the night that much
> sweeter....

Was at the course 6 or 7 years ago with Marlon and Warren Zackey when a horse of his won, Sonic Gang...opened 6/1 and started in double figures, how they managed it im not sure but they got the absolute lot without shortening the horse and took massive doubles with a Tarry rocket that striker won with later on in the day... also remember the 2 of them catching a huge pick 6 when they bankered a horse of Roy Meaker's at Clairwood that was a "gin strike" and won a feature at 16/1..

Titch


Yes warren another fearless punter made plenty....thos horse of marlons was about 14 years ago but i could b wrong...

Beyond The Pale Wrote:

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> Brilliant reading guys, please post some more.
> Plus who were generally respected as the biggest
> bookies of their time ? Old man Koury I suppose,
> Harry Symons ? Bill Ferguson ?


Raymond Solomon was up there. Also the Guy from randburg tarts. His name escapes me. Never knocked anybody back.
Another punter that has stood the test of time is Greg Sadie.