Re:Replication of Horses Names

two weeks back at turffies De Kock had a had horse called Toro Rosso as fav and was scratched.

on friday or sunday lowan denyscchen stepped out a horse called Toro Rosso.

is it possible as one bred abraod and the other locally , imagine both in same race :ohmy:

naresh wrote: Well I see a horse carded in the Vaal today in race 3 by the name of Lacroix. Well its not named after the French and ex Sharks player Thierry Lacroix thats for sure! Well this name Lacroix has brought back memories as in the 90's a horse with the exact same name, Lacroix, won the Rupert Ellis Brown Plate for D Heming at the now defunct Clairwood Park. The Rupert Ellis Brown is synonymous for Illustrador who won this race over 1200m before winning the July and Gold Cup all in the same season within 3 months of each other. I think it ran 3rd in the Mainstay won by the ill fated Face North. Past winners of the Rupert, were Bush Telegraph, Divine Act and Signor Amigo. Nostalgic memories indeed, maybe its not so bad to name horses after other horses cause it bring back good times, only joking.

Lacroix is a fairly common name and in my basic understanding of the French language it means "the cross".....There was indeed a horse by the same name trained by Jean Heming a 7 time winner by Lost Chord... but I doubt that it won the Rupert Ellis Brown Plate but the race you may be referring to... was the Byerly Turk Plate on the 1st of May 1993.....

About a decade ago you may remember we had two Albert Hall's racing here...

Golden Globe I see caused a real upset winning at the Vaal today at any price. Rewind back to the glorious 90's in fact 1995 when the old Golden Globe caused a major upset in winning the Germiston November Handicap. Good memories

naresh wrote: Golden Globe I see caused a real upset winning at the Vaal today at any price. Rewind back to the glorious 90's in fact 1995 when the old Golden Globe caused a major upset in winning the Germiston November Handicap. Good memories

Ridden by Rene Bonham and gave trainer Stuart Pettigrew his 1st GR1 winner beating National Emblem by a nose hair.....

If you do a search on www.pedigreequery.com/ you will find another SEA COTTAGE and COLORADO KING both bred by Australians subsequent to our champions. Yet it was the Aussies who cried foul when we named a filly BLACK CAVIAR and public opinion forced the owner to change her name. We really do relent to any shit. Rats man...

Ertijaal ??? How many are there ???

WHY would they allow RIO DE LA PLATA, the original ( 3 x grade1 winner and multiple grade2 and 3 wins) was racing only 3 years ago ?

Theres a horse currently named Golden Man trained by G Maroun. About 20 years ago there was a horse also Golden Man who was a Grade 1 winner if I am not mistaken also owned by the Maroun's.

There is a runner at Scotsville Race 1 named Free State. In the 1990''s I remember a sire called Free State who produced Grade 1 Gold Cup winner Stateway who came from Port Elizabeth to win in 1994 for Andre Hoffman and Arthur Miller. That sire Free State came from the UK though but also stood in South Africa. So a Grade 1 producing sire name can be replicated grrrr and it was not even 20 years when the new Free State was foaled after Stateways win.

There is a horse making its debut today Ace Pilot in Greyville Race 7. In the 1980's there had a horse also named Ace Pilot who won couple of features. I can remember Ace Pilot beating Blue Cossack in the Mainstay Trial and then Blue Cossack going onto win the Mainstay itself. Ace Pilot also ran second the year before that to Jungle Warrior in the Mainstay. Jungle Warrior was also a Cape Derby and Met Winner. Nostalgic memories, but getting spoilt with repeat of horses names...

naresh wrote: There is a horse making its debut today Ace Pilot in Greyville Race 7. In the 1980's there had a horse also named Ace Pilot who won couple of features. I can remember Ace Pilot beating Blue Cossack in the Mainstay Trial and then Blue Cossack going onto win the Mainstay itself. Ace Pilot also ran second the year before that to Jungle Warrior in the Mainstay. Jungle Warrior was also a Cape Derby and Met Winner. Nostalgic memories, but getting spoilt with repeat of horses names...

ACE PILOT

TWO-YEAR-OLD
29 Mar 1986 CAPE OF GOOD HOPE NURSERY FUTURITY (Gr.2) 1200 MILN 2 114 2.75 BUSH TELEGRAPH (114) UNKNOWN 0 15,000.00
24 May 1986 JWS LANGERMAN HANDICAP (Gr.4) 1500 MILN 1 116 0.25 LAP OF HONOUR (106) UNKNOWN 0 7,800.00
05 Jul 1986 ADMINISTRATOR'S CHAMPION JUVENILE STAKES (Gr.1) 1400 GREY 8 110 9.75 BUSH TELEGRAPH (110) UNKNOWN 0 0.00
Two-year-old-earnings 22,800.00

THREE-YEAR-OLD
20 Sep 1986 NATAL GUINEAS (Gr.3) 1600 GREY 1 114 1.00 SLOOP (114) J Lloyd 0 21,400.00
08 Nov 1986 S.A. INVITATION STAKES (Gr.2) 1600 SCOT 5 114 5.5 MAIN MAN (114) B DE WET 0 3,750.00
Three-year-old-earnings 25,150.00

FOUR-YEAR-OLD
19 Mar 1988 KING'S CUP (Gr.4) 1600 GREY 3 97 1.75 HEIRLOOM GOLD (96) UNKNOWN 0 3,000.00
02 Apr 1988 A DIVISION HANDICAP (Gr.4) 2000 CLAI 6 100 5.75 I TRY (101) UNKNOWN 0 0.00
30 May 1988 REPUBLIC DAY HANDICAP (Gr.2) 1900 GREY 12 101 6.1 HONEY BEAR (97) J Lloyd 0 0.00
23 Jul 1988 MAINSTAY INTERNATIONAL (Gr.1) 1800 CLAI 2 104 2.75 JUNGLE WARRIOR (100) F COETZEE 0 60,000.00
Four-year-old-earnings 63,000.00

FIVE-YEAR-OLD
31 Dec 1988 QUEEN'S PLATE (Gr.1) 1600 KENI 8 116 5.6 YARDMASTER (116) J Lloyd 113 0.00
21 Jan 1989 J&B METROPOLITAN (Gr.1) 2000 KENI 11 106 3.75 FEARLESS STREAKER (103) G MOLLOY 0 0.00
11 Feb 1989 ADMINISTRATOR'S TROPHY (MILN) (Gr.2) 1800 MILN 3 108 2.25 PARISIAN AFFAIR (105) J Lloyd 0 10,000.00
27 May 1989 REPUBLIC DAY HANDICAP (Gr.2) 1900 GREY 8 105 9.5 CASTLE WALK (105) B MARCUS 0 0.00
17 Jun 1989 A DIVISION HANDICAP (Gr.4) 1800 CLAI 3 113 2.5 CANZONET (97) UNKNOWN 0 2,800.00
12 Jul 1989 MAINSTAY TRIAL (Gr.4) 1600 CLAI 1 109 1.25 BLUE COSSACK (96) UNKNOWN 0 21,430.00
Five-year-old-earnings 34,230.00

SIX-YEAR-OLD
05 Aug 1989 CHAMPION STAKES (WFA) (Gr.1) 2000 GREY 8 114 4.5 HEIR TO RICHES (114) G HOWES 0 0.00
21 Oct 1989 A DIVISION HANDICAP (Gr.4) 1200 MILN 6 115 5.5 OMNIBUS (105) UNKNOWN 0 0.00
02 Dec 1989 A DIVISION HANDICAP (Gr.4) 1200 MILN 8 112 4.9 SIMONSIDE (115) UNKNOWN 0 0.00
03 Jan 1990 PENINSULA HANDICAP (Gr.4) 1800 MILN 7 109 8 OUR KNIGHT (105) UNKNOWN 0 0.00
Six-year-old-earnings 0.00

TOTAL EARNINGS 145,180.00