What a coup!!

Don
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Re: What a coup!!

11 years 1 day ago

THESE things will build respect, trust and adoption of the product:
1. root out insider trading/manipulation of system - use tough love/hard law(racing in disrepute)
2. barrier trials - first timers and long layoffs (integrity and transparency)
3. accountability for issues, fix or support systems in place - i.e. the grooms at Turff story and secondary market support (what happens to the horse once it is out of racing - social responsibility)
4. consistent good or fair service delivery at all levels, from the top floor down to the tote in the street (service delivery 101)
5. education of the public as to the full industry operations and functions - breeding through to racing through to retirement (public relations)

these, coupled with effective delivery of communications/tv/brand ambassadors/lifestyle endorsements will draw public support, and public support will draw sponsors.

If every sector - trainers, jockeys, owners, should take responsibility for their own contribution in this respect, after all, it is their livings that are being affected...but some are greedy and addicted to 'me first' syndrome - so will need a blanket policing system. The operators, together with the RA and JC, are struggling to knit together to get this going and somehow cannot see how to prioritise for a best outcome. What a battle it is, indeed.

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I have said before I am firmly on the side of doing everything that is possible to prevent these coups and hitting those involved hard. I agree with all that has been said by those lobbying for action to be taken. Assuming of course this was a coup...

One more thing, often forgotten, is the knock-on effect. Not only does it increase the distrust in racing as a whole (good timing with In A Rush??) and thus potentially stop bringing new blood into the game (who are not going to see the same or similar, potentially crooked, opportunities), it makes many already involved just add another nail into the "what's the point" coffin.

I believe both these horses run again on Monday, will they run to the form of those last outings? And the trainer has other runners out, if a horse is backed in a couple of points will there be a flood of money following in the belief the same is going to happen? This happened all the time with Curley horses for months, years after. As soon as a little money for a horse was seen then the floodgates opened and a load of horses came in from double figure prices to relatively short odds... and finished last. As a punter, what do you trust now? I don't believe anyone, for quite a while to come, studying form for a race where that trainer has a runner won't have that sneaking sense of self-doubt when they discount one of his runners, will they have R10 on just in case etc? Will they feel confident having a sizeable bet on another horse in the race? I doubt he will use an "obvious" jockey change next time so one less indicator to use to identify when it might happen....

The stipes etc either stamp it out with authority or they allow it to continue and help kill racing. My opinion.

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11 years 1 day ago

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Englander wrote: I have said before I am firmly on the side of doing everything that is possible to prevent these coups and hitting those involved hard. I agree with all that has been said by those lobbying for action to be taken. Assuming of course this was a coup...

One more thing, often forgotten, is the knock-on effect. Not only does it increase the distrust in racing as a whole (good timing with In A Rush??) and thus potentially stop bringing new blood into the game (who are not going to see the same or similar, potentially crooked, opportunities), it makes many already involved just add another nail into the "what's the point" coffin.

I believe both these horses run again on Monday, will they run to the form of those last outings? And the trainer has other runners out, if a horse is backed in a couple of points will there be a flood of money following in the belief the same is going to happen? This happened all the time with Curley horses for months, years after. As soon as a little money for a horse was seen then the floodgates opened and a load of horses came in from double figure prices to relatively short odds... and finished last. As a punter, what do you trust now? I don't believe anyone, for quite a while to come, studying form for a race where that trainer has a runner won't have that sneaking sense of self-doubt when they discount one of his runners, will they have R10 on just in case etc? Will they feel confident having a sizeable bet on another horse in the race? I doubt he will use an "obvious" jockey change next time so one less indicator to use to identify when it might happen....

The stipes etc either stamp it out with authority or they allow it to continue and help kill racing. My opinion.

Un Farking believable

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