Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago
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Pirates, i have a great respect for you but your opinion on this issue does not make sense.

HollyWood's site often crashes, hangs, deposits don't go through.....do you think they ever go back and pay punters on bets that would have won? seriously.....

You speak as if all the punters are friends with the owner.... if they are constantly making mistakes and you are highlighting them then Owen would do very well by hiring you.

Two wrongs don't make a right but HWB's mistake does not make AJ wrong.....and not to attempt to compromise is just bad form.
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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago
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Tigershark wrote: Mr H you are correct but the responsibility shifts to HWB when they accept the bet not when they offer it.

The shop that advertises the TV at the incorrect price will/should rectify at the till or before the deal is concluded and they would have every right to however once the item has been paid for and leaves your store is another matter all together.

An advert or price is an invitation to do business, once concluded, i.e. paid for and accepted the contract is considered concluded.

I am not saying that this was not a mistake but that the liability cannot be AJ's 100%

I think you are correct - however, it is in their T&C's, accepted by the gambling board

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Tigershark wrote: Pirates, i have a great respect for you but your opinion on this issue does not make sense.

HollyWood's site often crashes, hangs, deposits don't go through.....do you think they ever go back and pay punters on bets that would have won? seriously.....

You speak as if all the punters are friends with the owner.... if they are constantly making mistakes and you are highlighting them then Owen would do very well by hiring you.

Two wrongs don't make a right but HWB's mistake does not make AJ wrong.....and not to attempt to compromise is just bad form.
tiger the errors have been by many companies not just hwood plus every online site crashes not just hwood hence me repeating myself ad nauseam to have several plus to get the best prices on offer ..owen doesnt need me he runs the most successful bookmaking group in africa plus you only hear of bets not going on that have arrived but never the ones that dont ...which other firm refund your stake when your horse loses on objections or pays out on both when the stipes fucked up with the azzie ferraris incident or give you 9k a year in credit when you deposit on the 3 big days a year?
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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago
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Here is a question for anybody out there that has made an error in betting - (I have but only with the tote and they have cancelled for me) If you say wanted R100 wins on a horse but typed R1000 and you call your bookmaker BEFORE the bet do they cancel? I know this is slightly different as the bet concluded but the principle is the same - If there is no consensus due to a Material error then is there actually a contract at all? If the odds were .14 but the clerk put in .18 in error I think that any reasonable man would think that is a stretch that could be used to entice business but 100 times the odds is an error and for me that would suggest that no contract ever came into existence

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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago
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pirates wrote:
Tigershark wrote: Pirates, i have a great respect for you but your opinion on this issue does not make sense.

HollyWood's site often crashes, hangs, deposits don't go through.....do you think they ever go back and pay punters on bets that would have won? seriously.....

You speak as if all the punters are friends with the owner.... if they are constantly making mistakes and you are highlighting them then Owen would do very well by hiring you.

Two wrongs don't make a right but HWB's mistake does not make AJ wrong.....and not to attempt to compromise is just bad form.
tiger the errors have been by many companies not just hwood plus every online site crashes not just hwood hence me repeating myself ad nauseam to have several plus to get the best prices on offer ..owen doesnt need me he runs the most successful bookmaking group in africa plus you only hear of bets not going on that have arrived but never the ones that dont ...which other firm refund your stake when your horse loses on objections or pays out on both when the stipes fucked up with the azzie ferraris incident or give you 9k a year in credit when you deposit on the 3 big days a year?

Betxchange refunds you on an objection. Plus they have Best Odds Guaranteed to a maximum of R3000 if the Starting Price is bigger than the original price you have taken. Also you do not have to make a deposit to get a bonus with Betxchange, they award you with a Loyalty Bonus twice a year.

Hollwood Customer Service is the best around, no doubt about that. Devin in particular is very very very helpful.

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It has happened to me before and you just stiff that they picked it up minutes before u withdrew the cash! You obviously knew the in running price of 14-1 was way over stated but jumped onto it like anyone else would have done. Full stop!
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Mr H, i agree with you but the bet should have been cancelled immediately, the error occurred at the time of striking the bet. The problem arises when you then show the punter that it was a winning bet that would confirm that the bet was taken at the accepted odds.

Don't get me wrong, i am not saying that anyone could not see the odds were wrong but HW had two to three bites at the cake before correcting and to offer no compensation is just poor form. Some would even go so far as to say that reaching a compromise would have gone a long way to encourage customers to support HW....... they are innovative so why not offer a R1 000 betting voucher to the first punter that picks up a mistake? (Pirates could retire)

Yes we made a mistake with the odds, yes we accepted your bet, yes we showed you were a winner........ Nah, we were just joking :woohoo:
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Tigershark wrote: Mr H, i agree with you but the bet should have been cancelled immediately, the error occurred at the time of striking the bet. The problem arises when you then show the punter that it was a winning bet that would confirm that the bet was taken at the accepted odds.

Don't get me wrong, i am not saying that anyone could not see the odds were wrong but HW had two to three bites at the cake before correcting and to offer no compensation is just poor form. Some would even go so far as to say that reaching a compromise would have gone a long way to encourage customers to support HW....... they are innovative so why not offer a R1 000 betting voucher to the first punter that picks up a mistake? (Pirates could retire)

Yes we made a mistake with the odds, yes we accepted your bet, yes we showed you were a winner........ Nah, we were just joking :woohoo:


I agree that they should have offered something else -- look as Pirates said the give 9k away per year so give the guy 9k betting vouchers . or something ---

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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago
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Tigershark wrote: Thanks Pirates, YODA has spoken on behalf of HollyWood :silly: or in your opinion the customers that don't like it can all leave HollyWood Betting B)
if it was my business and a customer tried his luck by taking a price 100 times bigger than the actual price i would close his account ..let me tell you something for nothing tiger many times since the inception of online betting iv seen blatant typo errors and have informed the bookmaking firm about it ..but maybe thats just me and im an idiot

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Punter being at fault for taking a price advertised.

Therefore, refrain from betting when you think your bookie is making a mistake as they will accept your bet, pay-out as a winner, cancel the bet a day later, pat you on the back and then close your account for striking a bet that you "should've" known was a mistake.

That's daft and ludicrous.
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8 years 1 month ago
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Has your account been closed because of this AJ?

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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago
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Most ridiculous post.

When prices drift you out, you don't need to be notified, because you can take the bet.

But a mistake is just something that needs to be corrected. You don't have to accept 8,000 for your 80,000 car because you left off a zero off the sign. You don't owe anything to the dick who insists that you sell it to him for 8,000 either.

If you have any integrity you would notify someone who has made a mistake, hopefully because you are not a dick. A mistake being a typo or significant enough a difference so you realize it is an error.
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Re: Hollywood Bets - Advice Needed!

8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago
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Tigershark wrote: Has your account been closed because of this AJ?

No it hasn't.

Was just stating how daft/ludicrous it would be to do so as per Pirates rhetoric.
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