Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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5 runs is not quoted as an option - one run plus 4 overthrows=5

If 5 runs are scored, only the bookie can win

There must be a possibility for either party to win at the time the bet is made,
failing which the bet shall be void

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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1st ball bouncer....option?

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago
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What about a first ball option that the bowler bowls the ball onto the batsmans balls, the batsman then falls over in pain and lands on his wickets and in the process destroys the snicko equipment used in the DRS the zing bails break in half and the stump with the camera in it needs throwing away as it' has snapped in two.

Meanwhile the umpire calls the ball dead as he had not called play.

The match has to be called off as the equipment needs replacing

All the above at a special price just for you Loopy, let's say 500/1. You wanna bet?
Last edit: 8 years 5 months ago by CnC 306.
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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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chicken n chips wrote: What about a first ball option that the bowler bowls the ball onto the batsmans balls, the batsman then falls over in pain and lands on his wickets and in the process destroys the snicko equipment used in the DRS the zing bails break in half and the stump with the camera in it needs throwing away as it' has snapped in two.

Meanwhile the umpire calls the ball dead as he had not called play.

The match has to be called off as the equipment needs replacing

All the above at a special price just for you Loopy, let's say 500/1. You wanna bet?

:lol: @cnc still in form !!

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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IMO, the fact that leg byes are an option even though 4 leg buys are scored the correct winning bet would be leg byes and not 4 runs.

However. On the same market runs can be scored off a no ball. If a no ball was bowled and it was scored off by whatever means does it mean regardless of what is scored the no ball overrides everything else?

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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The Description as posted directly from screen capture on Hollywood Website states: FIRST BALL OFF THE MATCH.

IMO:

A bet is placed on the outcome, not the method. The outcome was 4 RUNS off the first ball of the match. Hence, as an ordinary punter, Id deem this to be a winning bet.

The other point where its now about Bye or Leg-Bye - this is a technicality. Simply because in lay terms, this simply states ONE run scored through the method of a BYE. It does not state BYE/S.

In another scenario, a bookie can easily decline paying out a bet if this was 2 Leg Byes or more simply because the bet description said BYE and not the plural.

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago
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The critical fact that seems hard to grasp.............extras are NOT runs!!!!!

Check at the end of any innings ....the SCORE is made up of RUNS attributed to batsman + EXTRAS = Score
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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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rob faux wrote: The critical fact that seems hard to grasp.............extras are NOT runs!!!!!

Check at the end of any innings ....the SCORE is made up of RUNS attributed to batsman + EXTRAS = Score

I don't understand. How can extras not be runs. A team scores 300 all out of which say 20 are extras. So what you are saying that there are 280 runs plus 20 extras. Why don't you think that extras are not runs? Is is because they never ran them? If that's the case then a six should not go down as runs as the batsman did not run them.
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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago
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chicken n chips wrote:
rob faux wrote: The critical fact that seems hard to grasp.............extras are NOT runs!!!!!

Check at the end of any innings ....the SCORE is made up of RUNS attributed to batsman + EXTRAS = Score

I don't understand. How can extras not be runs. A team scores 300 all out of which say 20 are extras. So what you are saying that there are 280 runs plus 20 extras. Why don't you think that extras are not runs? Is is because they never ran them? If that's the case then a six should not go down as runs as the batsman did not run them.

I thought you said you were a scorer???????....Runs are credited to batsmen (including boundaries) ,extras aren't... they remain extras forever!!!!!!
(and yes ....check the papers tomorrow ...in your example runs would be 280 and 20 would reflect as extras .....spot on!)
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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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RobF is correct........they are EXTRAS not runs................Neser (batsman) was only credited with 1 run in his whole innings!!



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Neser to Klinger, 4 leg byes, not a great start for the Strikers. Quick on the pads, clips Klinger's pads and races away down to the fine leg fence


The total of a game is made up of Runs Plus Extras (no balls, byes, wide's etc)....
From the actual scorecard one can see it was extras NOT runs.........
Perth Scorchers innings (20 overs maximum)

View dismissal M Klinger c O'Connor b Neser 1 5 0 0 20.00
View dismissal SM Whiteman† c O'Connor b Richardson 22 17 4 0 129.41
View dismissal IR Bell run out (Weatherald) 61 42 6 2 145.23
View dismissal MR Marsh c & b Jordan 31 19 2 2 163.15
View dismissal DJ Willey c Weatherald b Jordan 2 5 0 0 40.00
AJ Turner not out 44 19 2 4 231.57
View dismissal AC Voges* c †Dunk b Pollard 2 4 0 0 50.00
view dismissal AC Agar c Hodge b Neser 16 10 2 0 160.00
JA Richardson not out 0 0 0 0 -
Extras (lb 8, w 9, nb 1) 18
Total (7 wickets; 20 overs) 197 (9.85 runs per over)

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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Extras ARE runs - they're just added to the total score separately. The total score is made up of runs whereby a batsmen hits the ball. Extras are the exact opposite of this - any event where the batsmen does not hit the ball with his bat.

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Re: Hollywood not paying out a WINNING bet

8 years 5 months ago
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Quite right but at the end of the day they are added to the rus scored by batsman giving you a total amount of runs scored. At the moment SA are 85/0 which it states on the screen one of which is an extra. So going by what you said the score should be 84/0 and that extra run should only be classified as a run at the end of the inning. How many times have you heard the commentator say and the top score was extras.
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