USA next President Donald or Joe?

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4 years 7 months ago
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Bayern, fir once you are correct :P

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4 years 7 months ago
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Slight change in betting

Joe 7/10
Donald 15/10

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The Don is surging in the polls , Go Trump Go :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

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Hey Dem fans .... I don't expect you to watch this .... but howbad are the tech moguls :(

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Magi wrote: Hey Dem fans .... I don't expect you to watch this .... but howbad are the tech moguls :(


Seen this already, which was the point i was making regards the betting (earlier). Somewhat surprised this has not taken off on American networks, unless they still sleeping, the calm before the storm, as this was flighted on Aussie television.

Lionel made a comment that Biden's son was not qualified to sit on these Board/s, not sure what legal weight this carries in the broader scheme of things. Still trying to work out what Ivanka and Jared Kushner's roles are, and whether this is a form of nepotism.

Again i say, if Joe Biden has done something illegal, and it is proven, he must face the consequences. Regards his son, did his father suggest/recommend his son for the position, or did Burisma appoint him, with a long term view of leverage in mind?
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Bayern, the fact that its not on the main stream media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc), AND is being banned from Twitter should really (a) concern Joe Blogg, and (b) open the eyes of Joe Blogg.

Donald Jr and Ivanka are working for their father. Nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time...Oppenheimers, Ruperts, Ackermans, etc.

Hunter is accused of using his fathers position as VP, to assist these corporations. Much like all the corruption cases going on in SA right now. Hunter as no know credentials that will make him eligible for those positions, other than the fact that his father is the VP. However, if his father was VP, but was not corruptible, will Hunter have gotten those positions. You may come to your own conclusions on that one.

Biden has been in politics all his life. His family is now worth millions. Do the maths.

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Magi wrote: Hey Dem fans .... I don't expect you to watch this .... but howbad are the tech moguls :(


Magi, Twiiter opened up a can of worms for themselves.

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Lionel wrote: Bayern, the fact that its not on the main stream media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc), AND is being banned from Twitter should really (a) concern Joe Blogg, and (b) open the eyes of Joe Blogg.

Donald Jr and Ivanka are working for their father. Nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time...Oppenheimers, Ruperts, Ackermans, etc. (As part of the Trump business, that's not in dispute, let's be clear on that?, as part of the Administration, different story. Who appointed Hunter, his father or the Ukrainians?

Hunter is accused of using his fathers position as VP, to assist these corporations. Much like all the corruption cases going on in SA right now. Hunter as no know credentials that will make him eligible for those positions, other than the fact that his father is the VP. However, if his father was VP, but was not corruptible, will Hunter have gotten those positions. You may come to your own conclusions on that one.

Biden has been in politics all his life. His family is now worth millions. Do the maths.
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They are his advisors. No salary taken. Nothing illegal about it.

Jared is credited with the Middle East peace deal, which Kerry said "would never happen". The fact that this momentous achievement went unheralded by the MSM, is also evidence of their bias. Make no mistake about it, the democrats, with the MSM, hollywood, higher learning institutes etc, are the establishment. DJT, like him or hate, is anti-establishment, and is breaking all the rules.

"There will be no separate peace between Israel and the Arab world," Kerry began at a speaking engagement. "I want to make that very clear with all of you. I've heard several prominent politicians in Israel sometimes saying, 'Well, the Arab world is in a different place now. We just have to reach out to them. We can work some things with the Arab world and we'll deal with the Palestinians.' No. No, no, and no."

He continued, "I can tell you that, reaffirmed within the last week because I've talked to the leaders of the Arab community, there will be no advanced and separate peace with the Arab world without the Palestinian process and Palestinian peace. Everybody needs to understand that. That is a hard reality."
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Lionel wrote: They are his advisors. No salary taken. Nothing illegal about it.

Jared is credited with the Middle East peace deal, which Kerry said "would never happen". The fact that this momentous achievement went unheralded by the MSM, is also evidence of their bias. Make no mistake about it, the democrats, with the MSM, hollywood, higher learning institutes etc, are the establishment. DJT, like him or hate, is anti-establishment, and is breaking all the rules.

"There will be no separate peace between Israel and the Arab world," Kerry began at a speaking engagement. "I want to make that very clear with all of you. I've heard several prominent politicians in Israel sometimes saying, 'Well, the Arab world is in a different place now. We just have to reach out to them. We can work some things with the Arab world and we'll deal with the Palestinians.' No. No, no, and no."

He continued, "I can tell you that, reaffirmed within the last week because I've talked to the leaders of the Arab community, there will be no advanced and separate peace with the Arab world without the Palestinian process and Palestinian peace. Everybody needs to understand that. That is a hard reality."

And the daughter, what experience does she have? Let's apply the same standard, if Kushner was not married to his daughter, would he still be appointed to the position? You can't have it both ways Lionel.
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Bayern, agreed. The same standard must be applied unilaterally. That's what democracy is.

If the Trumps kids are proven to be benefiting financial by exploiting their or DJT's position, then throw the book at them.

The fact that Hunter got those positions is not the issue, and no crime has been committed. The question though is, did he exploit his father's VP position, to benefit himself and the company that he represents.

The point about him not being qualified only adds circumstantial evidence supporting the claim that he did exploit the position. If these emails on the laptop prove true, then that represents tangible evidence.

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Lionel wrote: Bayern, agreed. The same standard must be applied unilaterally. That's what democracy is.

If the Trumps kids are proven to be benefiting financial by exploiting their or DJT's position, then throw the book at them. (Hallelujah, we agreeing for the second time in 24 hours, maybe i should visit a casino, my luck appears to be changing.

The fact that Hunter got those positions is not the issue, and no crime has been committed. The question though is, did he exploit his father's VP position, to benefit himself and the company that he represents. How did he exploit his father's position, especially if no crime has been committed? I keeping asking the same question, who appointed him to that position or those Boards? Can tell you, one of the emails from the Ukraine was along the lines, "thanks for giving us the opportunity to meet with your father" - even if they did, what illegal thing took place?

The point about him not being qualified only adds circumstantial evidence supporting the claim that he did exploit the position. If these emails on the laptop prove true, then that represents tangible evidence.
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