England v South Africa test series

ICC Test team of the year

Cook, Amla, Sangakkara,Kallis,Clarke, Chanderpaul,Prior,Broad, Ajmal, Philander and Steyn

Nominations for Player of the year

Amla, Clarke, Philander, and Sangakkara winner to be announced Sept 15.

With compliments from your Sun reporter.

Englander : "Lara (who even had a pitch flown in to break the world record!)"

What was that about? I didn't ever hear about it.

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> ICC Test team of the year
>
> Cook, Amla, Sangakkara,Kallis,Clarke,
> Chanderpaul,Prior,Broad, Ajmal, Philander and
> Steyn
>
> Nominations for Player of the year
>
> Amla, Clarke, Philander, and Sangakkara winner to
> be announced Sept 15.
>
> With compliments from your Sun reporter.


Didn't know that Jimmy Cook was still playing ?

Englander Wrote:

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> Frodo Wrote:
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> > Englander, re your statement:
> >
> > Btw... I do hope, very good and "promising"
> though
> > he may be, no-one is yet trying to compare Amla
> to
> > the great Sir Viv??
> >
> > I never saw Sir Richards play (well except for
> one
> > or two highlight packages here and there) - If
> one
> > takes into consideration that Amla reached
> 3,000
> > ODI runs in 12 innings LESS than any one else
> > (including Sir Richards), I would suggest that
> > Amla has long since passed the 'promising' stage
> -
> > and his innings yesterday (not to forget his
> > triple century in the test) surely elevates him
> > into 'the best of all times' category, along
> with
> > legends like Brian Lara, etc.
>
> Morning Frodo. Promising was merely reference to
> the fact that Amla has hopefully still many years
> to come and he will be "judged" over his total
> career. Just for info, I think approx 800 of
> Amla's runs have come against Holland, Kenya,
> Ireland, Zim and Bang over 16 innings. Sir Viv
> played one innings against Zim (16), though in
> fairness when he was playing Sri L were not the
> team they are today (but better than Holland
> etc!). Lots of other things one could also throw
> in, primarily that I suspect Amla has had use of
> better batting tracks. But, Amla certainly stands
> up against the best of them in modern day cricket,
> I was justing saying that I think we should be a
> little patient before making comparisons to Sir
> Viv, who imo is a genuine cricket legend and a far
> greater "great" than Lara (who even had a pitch
> flown in to break the world record!)


Noted (tu)

Englander I get what you are saying about matches against non test unions, Amla has scored 791 runs in 14 innings against these sides averaging 56,5 runs an innings. Take back the 791 runs, Amla is on 3031 runs so then he would need 760 runs in 26 innings to break Sir Viv Richards record, against England he would be close to that by the end of the series and do it even faster.

If playing against these weaker sides is so easy why has no one since 1984 broke the record? He did it in 21 less innings than KP. If you compare him to the other modern day batsmen you can see what an amazing achievement it is.

shrek Wrote:

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> Englander I get what you are saying about matches
> against non test unions, Amla has scored 791 runs
> in 14 innings against these sides averaging 56,5
> runs an innings. Take back the 791 runs, Amla is
> on 3031 runs so then he would need 760 runs in 26
> innings to break Sir Viv Richards record, against
> England he would be close to that by the end of
> the series and do it even faster.
>
> If playing against these weaker sides is so easy
> why has no one since 1984 broke the record? He did
> it in 21 less innings than KP. If you compare him
> to the other modern day batsmen you can see what
> an amazing achievement it is.

Shrek... I am an Amla fan. I am on record as saying so. I am in no way trying to demean him. He is well on the way to becoming a "great", all I am saying is lets allow him to get there rather than rushing to proclaim him something he may not be able to maintain over the test of time.
The answer to your second point is very easy... ask any English bat whether they would rather face the Kenya, Zim etc attack or Steyn n Morkel? No brainer really And I did say he is right up there with the best of the modern players.

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> ICC Test team of the year
>
> Cook, Amla, Sangakkara,Kallis,Clarke,
> Chanderpaul,Prior,Broad, Ajmal, Philander and
> Steyn
>
> Nominations for Player of the year
>
> Amla, Clarke, Philander, and Sangakkara winner to
> be announced Sept 15.
>
> With compliments from your Sun reporter.

No link to Page 3? lol

Mavourneen Wrote:

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> Englander : "Lara (who even had a pitch flown in
> to break the world record!)"
>
> What was that about? I didn't ever hear about it.

Mav... Antigua 2004 WI vs England. England led the series 3 zip and they didn't want to lose 4-0 so they had a special track flown in and laid. Not the first time they have done it. It was in that test match Lara broke the world record. Was a joke. My brother could have got a ton on it and I only played cricket with him once... and he got a golden duck that day! <

Ross Taylor playing some innings in India... will probably be out immediately now I've written this... 110 off 103 balls (test match)

maybe England can learn from Taylors knock and that is play the Indian spinners on the front foot and attack attack attack. Play back to them and you are a goner.

Frodo Wrote:

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> chicken 'n chips Wrote:
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> > ICC Test team of the year
> >
> > Cook, Amla, Sangakkara,Kallis,Clarke,
> > Chanderpaul,Prior,Broad, Ajmal, Philander and
> > Steyn
> >
> > Nominations for Player of the year
> >
> > Amla, Clarke, Philander, and Sangakkara winner
> to
> > be announced Sept 15.
> >
> > With compliments from your Sun reporter.
>
>
> Didn't know that Jimmy Cook was still playing ?


Now he was a great opener and i believe that he would have scored plenty of test runs had he had the chance frodo. He nver wore a helmet until the West Indian Mosely nearly decapitated him with one of his bouncers. I believe that Cook even went to sleep with a helmet after that.

Only time I've had a go this summer... and gets a bit of the losses back from Fairview (tu)
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