louisg tell the nha they are clue less

superb answer neigh let the trainer have a say in their horses merit rating...let the handicapers do there job and let the trainers do their job...just like hcapers dont interfere with trainers jobs so shdnt the trainers tell the hcapers what to do

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Just about all my life S so about 40 years.

Neigh I cannot agree with what you say...as you seem to know everything that MDK does and says..answer me this..why does he say then that he would rather have luck in getting a horse than all the specs in the world being right..plse this game is lucky dip..your horse either can run or not..thats it..thats all!

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Im asking how you choose a trainer, would like to hear Oscars opinion
Aswell

O, luck is a huge part of any sport another variable though. S there are many good trainers out their. I have a trainer now that I am very happy and comfortable with because he is a Horseman, a gentleman, passionate, knows the MR system (lol), not a gambler, a history of achievement, a friend and most of all a LOVE for the horse. Bonus, he is not any where near the most expensive either !! Bottom line NO Kak !! No Bullsh1t !!

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I dont get it all he asked was , what you believed ur horse's MR should be .............

Solo

Been out for the day , ill reply soon.


The truth is it seems that some just dont know, i cant believe im surprised though. The table does not lie.

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> O, luck is a huge part of any sport another
> variable though. S there are many good trainers
> out their. I have a trainer now that I am very
> happy and comfortable with because he is a
> Horseman, a gentleman, passionate, knows the MR
> system (lol), not a gambler, a history of
> achievement, a friend and most of all a LOVE for
> the horse. Bonus, he is not any where near the
> most expensive either !! Bottom line NO Kak !! No
> Bullsh1t !!

Kak and bullshit seems a common word to describe most trainers,and this
Is from ppl who owned horses and got scammed, bad advert for racing

But I hope u find the next horse chestnut

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> cant believe im surprised though. The table does
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what table?

100`s of millions being flung at UTD,CITY AND Chelsea has certainly stopped the Liverpools,Evertons and Aston Villas winning titles,doesnt stop their managers doing good jobs with what they got!!!

Neigh that part I like a lot!

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> Craig I cant entirely agree with you on this one.
> If MDK knew "everything"(not saying he does or
> that you are) he would not have entered these two
> horses yesterday for what ever the reason's. Prep
> not right, badly handicapped, going, distance,
> weight etc etc So the question is, did they run
> to their ability ? NO, so who is to blame ? The
> horse ? I think not. A combination of both more
> likely. You are both right !! Chicken or the egg
> !! The good trainers, I believe, like in any other
> sport try to eliminate or restrict these variables
> to a minimum. All being equal that is. The
> difference here is that we are dealing with an
> animal that cant talk. That's where the men and
> the boy's are separated from one another. The good
> ,average or kak horseman. The same applies to our
> MR system and trainers. The system, good or bad ,
> should be the same for all, but we all know it
> isn't and that's to me the big imbalance. That's
> why I again suggest a type of liaison between
> trainers and the handicapper to correct this
> imbalance.

Could you supply some examples of it not being the same for all?

Neigh, sorry been out. All I was trying to say was what Oscar wrote. If the horse cannot run,it cannot run. Full stop. Even MDK the best trainer could not get those horses yesterday to run better. He has said the same thing to me before about how lucky he has been and he is very grateful for it. If I could teach some people on this forum 1 thing in my life about racing and that is what has been written today, it is nearly all/mostly about the horses natural ability. Trainers, jockeys ect do not have nearly the input on a horses results as the horses natural ability. Look at many trainers around with 2/3/4 time winners as their best horses now and then think back and many of them will have trained a champion/top horse in their time. Did they suddenly forget how to train? NO, they just do not have the stock right now.