Derek brugman wanted to have a punt

Ruffian, you want answers.....?
1) I think Markus Jooste would be HAPPY if no mention of his horses took place on ABC, given the years of abuse he has taken on this forum. So my answer is NO , not on ABC.
2) Yes he did. But it now turns out that he had NO CONTACT or INSTRUCTION from Derek on the matter AT ALL ! He assumed this....And an apology is due. (Wow, we don't want to hear this, do we...?)
3)Now the limit or size of a claim on a first timer is the issue. The horse was claimed, shortened. The jock said that he would be surprised if it did not finish in the top 3. The horse won.

Some are sensitive to the word idiot, so I will rephrase my point again. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the horse was fancied. There should be no fuss. And the punters WERE NOT MISLED....only Idi. ...oops were !!!!

Louisg be honest here, do you really believe what you just wrote at point 2? :lol: give me a break man, only 'ensteins" believe that isn't a cover up to save face. Why would he assume that out of interest? :whistle:

Im done with this topic now, back to punting

The claim on first timers is minuscule. So anyone who suggests punters follow the money and take rock-bottom prices has zero understanding of how the market works.

That is putting it very tactfully.

And thanks for enlightening us on Mr Jooste's apparent disdain for a public forum dedicated to punters rights.
I would have thought he would be an advocate for free speech, but you obviously know him better.

ruffian wrote: And thanks for enlightening us on Mr Jooste's apparent disdain for a public forum dedicated to punters rights.
I would have thought he would be an advocate of free speech, but you obviously know him better.

Why would you have that opinion?

louisg wrote: Ruffian, you want answers.....?
1) I think Markus Jooste would be HAPPY if no mention of his horses took place on ABC, given the years of abuse he has taken on this forum. So my answer is NO , not on ABC.

Exactly. The claim on first timers is miniscule. ..so any Punter who then looks for a "misleading" statement or makes a big deal out of it is what ..... If not an idiot. ..?
So, we agree, then ! YIPPEE !

You forget to take your dementia meds ?

You have been telling everyone to follow claims on first timers and then bet.
To "read the information" through the claims.

By the way - Mr Jooste and Mr Brugman thank you for keeping this thread alive.

Bob, how about a poll? did something "wrong" take place...yes or no

Look mj B did not downplay the horse to an extent that would put punters off it,he said 1st 3 ,it was a 1st timer,that was a fair comment, ,but the post race interview left ppl with a impression that horse racing is corrupt

Btw I'm hearing from the mountain goats that brugman never asked or wanted to have 1st punt on the horse,there was definitely somebody who did they say,but not brugman

Out of respect for the 40 yr long punters who hate transparency I'm not going to reveal who it was ,but it's damming stuff, but I'm not telling,not even pm

Maybe an apology in order to the name of this thread