JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
- Bob Brogan
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
Tero believ you me if SA follow the uk model there will be no punters in the outlets in 10 years time...
ps if you feel so strongly about the case above and you have proof you should bring a charge with the NHRA
ps if you feel so strongly about the case above and you have proof you should bring a charge with the NHRA
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- Countrymember
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
Taken from an overseas website......
"You only need to look on racing-related internet forums to see the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
Sitting smugly among the intelligent and articulate posts will be all manner of self-satisfied, opinionated garbage, gossip masquerading as fact, tittle-tattle put forward as news, bile spewed indiscriminately by people with nothing better to do, vile accusations sprayed around by losing punters, the pathetic noise that emanates from empty vessels.
In short, what we get are lots of lies, about crooked jockeys, bent trainers and the like, posted anonymously by those who revel in their apparent immunity from prosecution and show no regard for the reputations and sensibilities of others."
(GB didnt realise you were so atriculate...:
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"You only need to look on racing-related internet forums to see the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
Sitting smugly among the intelligent and articulate posts will be all manner of self-satisfied, opinionated garbage, gossip masquerading as fact, tittle-tattle put forward as news, bile spewed indiscriminately by people with nothing better to do, vile accusations sprayed around by losing punters, the pathetic noise that emanates from empty vessels.
In short, what we get are lots of lies, about crooked jockeys, bent trainers and the like, posted anonymously by those who revel in their apparent immunity from prosecution and show no regard for the reputations and sensibilities of others."
(GB didnt realise you were so atriculate...:

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- Barry Irwin
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
They are called Trolls.
When these boards were started, I warned the innkeepers that this was part and parcel of the enterprise, which is why it is difficult to make it work. The first that has to go is anonymity. But that takes balls.
When these boards were started, I warned the innkeepers that this was part and parcel of the enterprise, which is why it is difficult to make it work. The first that has to go is anonymity. But that takes balls.
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
Countrymember Wrote:
> Taken from an overseas website......
>
> "You only need to look on racing-related internet
> forums to see the kind of stuff I'm talking
> about.
>
> Sitting smugly among the intelligent and
> articulate posts will be all manner of
> self-satisfied, opinionated garbage, gossip
> masquerading as fact, tittle-tattle put forward as
> news, bile spewed indiscriminately by people with
> nothing better to do, vile accusations sprayed
> around by losing punters, the pathetic noise that
> emanates from empty vessels.
>
> In short, what we get are lots of lies, about
> crooked jockeys, bent trainers and the like,
> posted anonymously by those who revel in their
> apparent immunity from prosecution and show no
> regard for the reputations and sensibilities of
> others."
>
> (GB didnt realise you were so atriculate...:
> ).....
Superb Post that says it all in a nut shell.
@ Tero
If I had to rely solely on my com as a Jockey agent for an income I would be in serious trouble..and the last time I checked Winning Form weren't laying bets so no Muzi is not sponsored by a bookmaker.
> Taken from an overseas website......
>
> "You only need to look on racing-related internet
> forums to see the kind of stuff I'm talking
> about.
>
> Sitting smugly among the intelligent and
> articulate posts will be all manner of
> self-satisfied, opinionated garbage, gossip
> masquerading as fact, tittle-tattle put forward as
> news, bile spewed indiscriminately by people with
> nothing better to do, vile accusations sprayed
> around by losing punters, the pathetic noise that
> emanates from empty vessels.
>
> In short, what we get are lots of lies, about
> crooked jockeys, bent trainers and the like,
> posted anonymously by those who revel in their
> apparent immunity from prosecution and show no
> regard for the reputations and sensibilities of
> others."
>
> (GB didnt realise you were so atriculate...:

> ).....
Superb Post that says it all in a nut shell.
@ Tero
If I had to rely solely on my com as a Jockey agent for an income I would be in serious trouble..and the last time I checked Winning Form weren't laying bets so no Muzi is not sponsored by a bookmaker.
Give everything but up!
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> @ Observer
> 1). Who prices up the betting,....the Bookies, and
> on what do they base that pricing, Beside a horses
> form, they must have some "inside" info on the
> chance of a horse
> Why would you say they MUST have some "inside"
> information?? You and I and other punters
> determine if a horse shortens or drifts which
> depends on the weight of money or lack thereof
> for the horse..thats a no brainer
> 2) When a horses form points to it been a good
> thing, the probability of most punters putting
> money on a good thing is strong. Should this horse
> win, the bookies, will win in most cases, after
> covering themselves, not lose, but rather, not
> take as much would like to, rather take as much as
> they can from the punters
> This point I cant understand Bookies lay favorites
> for 1 simple reason ..if they lay a punter 2/1 and
> it shortens on them they simply dont take back at
> say 15/10 unless they want to go clean out once it
> does shorten on them they stand it and if it wins
> they will take a loss
> 3) Replacement jock M. Mienie, 1
> 1st ride) 11/2, finished, 5th, 12 LBH,
> 2nd ride) 8/1, finished 6LBH, (the gap behind
> narrowed)
> 3rd ride) then betting coup, wins by 4L at 6/1,
> backed from 7/1
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> 7/1 into 6/1 a betting coup??? That does not even
> represent a claim .....are you taking the
> piss???.:S:S
Tich..Tich...the man protests too much.
Look up the word BIGOT. Titch
> @ Observer
> 1). Who prices up the betting,....the Bookies, and
> on what do they base that pricing, Beside a horses
> form, they must have some "inside" info on the
> chance of a horse
> Why would you say they MUST have some "inside"
> information?? You and I and other punters
> determine if a horse shortens or drifts which
> depends on the weight of money or lack thereof
> for the horse..thats a no brainer
> 2) When a horses form points to it been a good
> thing, the probability of most punters putting
> money on a good thing is strong. Should this horse
> win, the bookies, will win in most cases, after
> covering themselves, not lose, but rather, not
> take as much would like to, rather take as much as
> they can from the punters
> This point I cant understand Bookies lay favorites
> for 1 simple reason ..if they lay a punter 2/1 and
> it shortens on them they simply dont take back at
> say 15/10 unless they want to go clean out once it
> does shorten on them they stand it and if it wins
> they will take a loss
> 3) Replacement jock M. Mienie, 1
> 1st ride) 11/2, finished, 5th, 12 LBH,
> 2nd ride) 8/1, finished 6LBH, (the gap behind
> narrowed)
> 3rd ride) then betting coup, wins by 4L at 6/1,
> backed from 7/1
>
> 7/1 into 6/1 a betting coup??? That does not even
> represent a claim .....are you taking the
> piss???.:S:S
Tich..Tich...the man protests too much.
Look up the word BIGOT. Titch
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- mr hawaii
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
sectional timing will help a great deal especially in the Cape
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
Little worse than knowing/seeing you've done your money after a few hundred metres into the race, because of the pace.
This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap not only grates me but i fear a serious pile up caused by the clipping of heels.
This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap not only grates me but i fear a serious pile up caused by the clipping of heels.
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
2cents Wrote:
> Little worse than knowing/seeing you've done your
> money after a few hundred metres into the race,
> because of the pace.
>
> This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap not
> only grates me but i fear a serious pile up caused
> by the clipping of heels.
marees racing consultancy business and school of racing excellence will be launched early next year
> Little worse than knowing/seeing you've done your
> money after a few hundred metres into the race,
> because of the pace.
>
> This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap not
> only grates me but i fear a serious pile up caused
> by the clipping of heels.
marees racing consultancy business and school of racing excellence will be launched early next year
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
pirates Wrote:
> 2cents Wrote:
>
>
> > Little worse than knowing/seeing you've done
> your
> > money after a few hundred metres into the race,
> > because of the pace.
> >
> > This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap
> not
> > only grates me but i fear a serious pile up
> caused
> > by the clipping of heels.
>
>
> marees racing consultancy business and school of
> racing excellence will be launched early next year
Anybody who is interested please PM pirates
> 2cents Wrote:
>
>
> > Little worse than knowing/seeing you've done
> your
> > money after a few hundred metres into the race,
> > because of the pace.
> >
> > This jump and ease up to a steady canter crap
> not
> > only grates me but i fear a serious pile up
> caused
> > by the clipping of heels.
>
>
> marees racing consultancy business and school of
> racing excellence will be launched early next year
Anybody who is interested please PM pirates
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- Loopy Logic
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
+90% of these runs below can be explained by "INTENT"
< once punters starts gauging intent you will enjoy the inferior runs since you would have spotted it ... and be one of the layers... figure it out...I stand with Titch on the previous post "sadly the crooked jock theory is fueled largely by the uninformed" ... I will add that unters should learn the trade first before throwing away hard earned cash...
No one else to blame ...

No one else to blame ...
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago
maybe just maybe the HORSE is crooked......
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Re: Re: JOCKEYS CONTROL RACING
13 years 8 months ago

The horse conspiracy theory...LOL haven't given that one any thought yet...
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