louisg tell the nha they are clue less

Vis

The usa run mainly on claiming races for me its the best way as its the trainer that handicaps his own horses and if he gets it wrong will never see the horse again as it gets sold after the race.

What Is A Claiming Race?

The basic definition of a "Claiming Race" is a race in which any horse entered in the race may be Claimed (purchased) by any other stable for the claiming price of the race. By entering a horse in a Claiming Race, you are essentially offering your horse up for sale.

The claiming price is usually different from the purse (prize money) that is offered to the winners of the race. There are varying levels of Claiming Races. Claiming prices range from about TH$1,000 up to TH$100,000+ depending on the race. Some races are Maiden Claiming, which are intended for horses that have never won a race. Other Claiming Races are unrestricted. Usually the better horses are entered in the more expensive claimers while the lower rank and older horses are entered in the lower priced Claiming Races.

Since a Claiming Race requires each owner that enters the race to agree to the "price tag" for their horse, this means horses should be competing against more or less equal competition. Just don't enter your horse in a Claiming Race for a price less than your horse is really worth. (For information on horse values see Help Center topic "Horse Valuation.")

Relatively few horses that are entered in the appropriate level of Claiming Race actually get claimed, but if you just don't want to run the risk then don't enter your horse in any claiming races. However, you might be missing out on some good money making opportunities.

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> Louis,
>
> r u serious re?
>
> the horse can only miss a division if YOU believe
> its rated LESS than its current rating. If you
> (like me) believe its a better horse than 88 then
> its missed nothing. What it has done is not run
> against horses correctly handicapped and scalped
> them because its superior.
>
> I really fail to see why people want a horse above
> average (perhaps even a good horse) and then want
> it handicapped low so they can milk races along
> the way.
>
> If Sir Mark Prescott trained this horse and it was
> as i believe a 102 then i reckon we would NOT see
> it till next years Emerald cup day where he would
> be entered in the
> sorry just the hampton
>
> he would open up 20/1 due to a 365 day rest and
> people thinking something was wrong with him, he
> would start 7/2 and win off 52kgs
>
> that is the art of handicapping

Absolutley ditto.

Sa trainers are against this because of the "being shown up " fear, the truth is for me and many you get truer run races and form.

For example if you entered horse chestnut in a r50 k claimer on debut then he would have won by 20 and been sold

If though he was in a R300k claimer the bids might have been less

Of course with a horse like that you would rather go maiden or maiden special weight and then features and avoid claimers.

But some very very good horses started off in claimers

Seabiscuit is one

The other beauty about claimers is sometimes there are no chits in for the horses and the oke gets it back, happens alot with horse that move to post in a bad way.

As I said, very few plate races programmed for winners. This is because small fields accept, as they scratch others out at weights. To counteract this, to get bigger fields, for bigger turnover, the Operators stepped in and set a limit of 6 points to the winner of a plate race and NO PENALTY for places, at all, not even if you are 30 points under sufferance and are beaten a nose.

So this now further messes up the whole system, surely ?

See what I mean by "the current system" ?

Agree that there are too few conditions races

But even with so few conditions races a well handicapped horse like trip tease still has options

Claimers and sellers in the UK drive punters away from the game and only help the sharks...

So, Mac and Harry, you say that I must put the horse away for a year and then goto the Hampton at end Sept 2014!

Ok, lets do it. but, please give me some info -
1) what is the first place cheque for the Hampton?

2) what will his rating be after the Hampton, should he win this race next year?

LG don`t worry about sticking horses away RE prescott in the UK he deliberatley goes out to mislead the Public and Hcp for his own financial benefit and is bad for racing in the long run..

We might go wow the Prescott can get them to win a big hacp ,but we have to guess 95% of the time if todays the day with his runners,Just Like we do with Curley and Tony Martin... bad for racing

Goose

It was my suggestion...

Hibs

Prescott is brilliant for racing and is imo a true master

Louis

1st prize about 90k
Betting return about 200k
Then 2time winner sold for 450k